Deleted member 11267 Guest. Thanks for your help with this. proper joiners etc. Can I lay ceramic floor tiles directly onto a new chipboard floor or does it need sealing? These are standard 30x30 tiles - what type of adhesive and grout should I use? Thanks. You’ll find chipboard flooring available in 18mm or. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3 added to "My Project List". Glue and screw. Normally you shouldn’t need to add anything to the chipboard flooring other than screws to stop the squeaking. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the. 8"x2" 2400x600x18mm . thatching. use 18mm ply or 22mm chipboard, support all edges and use tongue and groove for the strongest floor, glueing all joints. The timber in your pic above is the sole plate of the stud wall ,and not so easy to remove. £33. I’ll be laying insulation boards and ufh mat then laminate on top. My current ideas are. I never would, the integrity of the surface of chipboard is poor compared with most other materials. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. 8. In answer to your question, if you do decide to replace the floor then you can go near the the wall as poss and I’d suggest putting some noggins to support the edges of the floorboards. The Tri-Lock threadform offers the benefit of a single and a twin thread in one providing a straight and balanced start, while the coarse single thread ensures boards are clamped fast and firmly and will not pull apart under load. Electric Underfloor Heating. The squeak can be caused by the boards rubbing against each other or rubbing against the joists, glue on the joists is sometimesd used at installation this helps as does replacing nails with screws [even ringshank nails cannot cope with the poor density of chipboard]. Bodgets suggestion seems the easier solution. Double-Countersunk Head for Reduced Shear. ElecCEng Screwfix Select. Dawsy New Member. Our chipboard flooring features a tongue and groove fitting system for easy installation. Easy to install, these electric underfloor heating mats don't affect floor height, so they're are ideal for new. Screwfix Community Forum. Product Width. Glue joists and the tongues, and use three screws per joist, chipboard full threaded screws. (42 products) Castors are wheels designed to fix to an object to make it easier to move and can be used at home or in the workplace. just one at the centre of the board will suffice. #3. com. For example, room is 4m long exactly (4000mm). FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Dawsy, Nov 18, 2017. . Look for key features such as movement type, brake type and strength to find the. Home Tags > chipboard floor. com. For it to be thermally effective, mineral wool insulation needs to be at the government recommended depth of 270mm. Net-Coat Yellow-Plated. Product code: 164516. It's a short piece of usually 1 1/2"or 2" thickness timber cut and fixed to provide stiffening, Fixing points, reinforcement, strength, support etc. £44. Hello folks, I’m just about to tile the floor to pretty much the entire ground floor of my house, about 47 square metres. Joists are at 600mm, T&G chipboard 22mm @ 600mmX3000mm. The room used to be divided in two but we have opened it up into one big room. What's under the laminate is parquet finger blocks (bad condition) on top of concrete (ground floor). Heat Screwfix Select. 40. 5 Boards 1. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. 7m at most before it runs across the solid supporting wall. Similar products. Wickes flooring is laid with the label on top (there is some printing showing which way up as well if the label is missing). Tongue-Tite TX Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 3. The 18mm boards run lengthways and the water damage may be at one end only. Buy Wood, Chipboard & Plywood Cutting & Blades at Screwfix. When the boards are walked upon, the Tri-Lock. £9. PAGE 1 OF 2. This type of heating system means no wall mounted variants are needed which gives greater flexibility when designing a room. 85 per square metre. 89 Price. Will start from one corner of the room with first board laid with its grooved sides into the walls; 2. One has said he would secret nail it the other said he would float it. . archie1966, Aug 23, 2012. It's a short piece of usually 1 1/2"or 2" thickness timber cut and fixed to provide stiffening, Fixing points, reinforcement, strength, support etc. Tom40 said: ↑. Total Product Weight. 22mm Chipboard floor over insulation. 5mm x 60mm 300 Pack at Screwfix. jizzard_of_oz, Mar 17, 2008. Suitable for Soft to Medium Density Tiles. 6 size. The sub floor is chipboard. House was built in 1911. Trying to fix the creaking in upstairs chipboard floor, before new carpet laid on Tuesday. £10. Vin, May 16, 2020. Cutting the door stops with a saw helps, so you can tuck the plank under stop. I can see where some have been replaced historically, they just used what looks like pine and I guess cut it to size. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. My house is only a few years old and all the flooring consists of huge sheets of chipboard, with the walls added on top of it. Screwfix Community Forum. Screwfix Community Forum. Is it possible to make a decent join into half a T & G floor. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. One Size. The distances between the joists vary. com. It would be better if it was glued and then screwed to the chipboard and preferably the joists underneath. I would be concerned by the amount of crud under the floor. Think the best thing now, is to over-board it, lapping joints, with 12mm ply, fixed down into the boards with 30mm screws (inclue some 50mm screws into the joists if you know where they are and you are satisfied no cables or pipes run there. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. 2mm x 55mm 200 Pack (49231) Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. Inc. Single thread. I will leave 10mm expansion gap etc. 8 or no. Then allow extra 15mm at least to mark cut line above centre of joist. At Selco, we stock a wide range of chipboard in a number of different sizes. £6. 8/5. Chipboard Flooring. Leave an expansion gap of approx 10mm all around the perimeter of the room. Does the chipboard flex in any way ,as in unsupported edges ? If it's solid underfoot don't worry. Jord86, Jul. Fix down with either ring shank 75mm nails. You can lay it full width all the way down if you want as long as you don't mind the waste off of each board!! I would use as much of the flooring as possible,just make sure the joints are sitting on a joist. - Protective gloves – essential if laying glass mineral wool floor insulation. 1) You have a level floor, whether it be chipboard or any other base. 2m² (894VK) compare. Most chipboard flooring is moisture resistant anyway so I wouldn't bother, infact the water will do more harm to the oak than the chipboard. Recently tiles are coming loose and grout has cracked around most. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. As Willy said, if you have to go underneath at anytime you are still going to have to cut the board somewhere as they are all interlocked and won't lift without making a cut. The size of the chipboard sheets are 2400 x 600 x 22mm 18 mm osb is sometimes used on joists @ 400 centres even then I prefer using 22mm chipboard. osb isnt suitable for direct exposure to the elements, its good stuff for shed floors and roofs though. Hi guys, hope everyone is staying safe. £39. The laminate floor comes with its own underlay. The bathroom is fairly small 2m x 1. 2) Joist jacks directly under the joists upon which the appliance sits. We had a slow water leak behind the sink. if it is "flooring grade chipboard", then you can tile direct on to it. 5 x 20 mm Reiser Cutter Screws, spaced at 150mm apart (approx 50 screws per 8’ x 4’ sheet of ply) If possible take off skirting, lay floor, then replace skirting on top of new floor. Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by PSR, Jun 4, 2005. Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by nigel9097, Apr 14, 2014. Delivery 7 days a week. Try the PVA trick and see if it helps, I’m not convinced personally. I was working in a property last week and the chipboard floors had circular access panels about 300mm in diameter cut into them which were lined with a flush fitting plastic ring type thingy, this allowed the bit of chipboard cut that was cut out to sit flush with the finished floor level and was a really quite a. . Anyone still 'sinking' the screws in chipboard will have problems. I've been told I don't need to ensure the short edge joins are on the joist as the glued edge is probably stronger than the board, is this billy-bulls**t or true. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self. OSB. this stops squeek noise and promotes a more solid job. Mof Guest. I will be fixing skirting after the floor is laid and will be leaving a 10-15mm expansion gap all the way round. Hi Gentleman, I m about to lay 22mm P5 chipboard flooring for my loft conversion. I should have levelled the floor joists when I had the opportunity. Buy Floor-Tite Flooring Screws at Screwfix. Look out for intricate, decorative brackets for domestic projects, or more heavy duty versions for use in warehouses, factories or workshops. Flash_uk New Member. Brackets. Add to trolley. The squeek is often caused by the original nails working loose (and/or the boards shrinking around them) so I would start by making sure that they're all punched in properly. Just avoid the pipes! What floor is going over it? Carpet best for sound. Belt and braces. The laminate floor comes with its own underlay. If it has been, then I would still suggest ripping up the chipboard and laying an appropriate layer of decent ply before topping with 6mm backer. The builder is refusing to investigate properly as they feel that it is normal. This will help to ensure that your vinyl tiles go on well, and produce decent finish. A bit of a nightmare. They are actually quite cheap now, probably the best place to get them no sis the website below. For example, a 2mm Polyfoam Underlay is recommended for a chipboard sub-floor but is barely going to provide any sound deadening and has no. on bag you can traffic and grout after 3 hours, but. when laying 18mm tongue and groove chipboard flooring(2400 x 600mm), on the short tongue and groove edges, i know all should be glued but do they need to be supported by a joist too?. Lowvolts,. 60 days free credit available. Set the string line say 300mm above the finished floor level at one side of the room. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. Soudal Parquet Flooring Adhesive 1kg (425KV) compare. 2. Double Self-Countersunk with Underhead Ribs. JustPhil Active Member. The floors are moisture resistant tongue & groove chipboard and after having researched on this forum and others I know i should not be tiling straight onto. Prefabricated roofs brought to site on a lorry. Hi Chippies, Have had a new 18mm T&G CHipboard floorboards (2400x600mm) laid over a fairly large area in a project. Soudal Parquet Flooring Adhesive 1kg (425KV) compare. After removing it, the studs (32x50mm) were not secured to the rather uneven block and beam floor, nor levelled (im guessing resulting in the uneven and noisy floor previously). 2-Part Epoxy Adhesive Tubes. Recently im faced with the task of trying to take up more and more chipboard flooring and was thinking of investing in a good nail puller to remove the recessed nails ? Click to expand. Buy Flooring Adhesives at Screwfix. #6. Had a bit of an emergency and need to replace my floors fast (and cheap). I am having a problem fitting 2 lengths of 18mm. I’ve seen some holes (three holes) which have been plugged with wooden pieces. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Jord86, Nov 22, 2021. com. john i did something like this the other week. Goldscrew PZ Double-Countersunk Self-Tapping Multipurpose Screws 3. Mould-Resistant. Floor is all chipboard sheeting T&G and runs lengthways with the bath. Once the joists are exposed and I’ve had a good check to see if they’re not rotten or anything (fingers crossed!), noggin the *,not tongue & grooved all around,get the proper 8X2 weyrock flooring,it will go through most trap doors,you can get it from wickes & b&q. Designed for sealing around timber, laminates and other flooring applications. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to a certain. For Cement Based Mixes. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. Screwfix Community Forum. No problems at all. £122. traditionally you would only use white glue for gluing these boards togehter,grip fill is too thick and silicone is definately not suitable!gun nailing is ideal as well as the nails are ribbed and will not allow movement. Available in a range of options for multi-surface flooring. Add to Cart. The floor manufacturer says the floor can be floated providing the. Product Width. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > laying oak floor on chipboard. Tolley, Aug 15, 2005. Saved to Project List. Deep, Sharp, Single Thread for Cutting Cleanly through Wood. This is sitting on an old pine floor supported by joists over a cellar. Applying ply sheeting will add nothing to this floor, that is'nt already there, providing it has been fixed down properly, but it will mean you. View product details. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. Order Spax TX Countersunk Self-Drilling Flooring Screw 4. 22mm floor is better. I’m considering 2 options: 1. pci nanolight will stick direct to chipboard without. We tried with limited success to replace the hallway floor with traditional t&g planks (110mm). It would be impossible to. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. So had battons fitted to the underside of the joists to support 100m celotex, then used aluminium spreader plates to take the pipes, and 18mm t&g chipboard over the top secured to joists. DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. High Initial Grab. If you are left with holes in the floor just gripfill them in as the holes will have the joist underneath. Gluing and screwing will give you a much more rigid floor and reduce flex. TS Thread System Offers a Single & Twin Thread in One, Gripping Fast with a Firm Fix. what ever the thickness of the item being secured say 10mm, then multiply it by 3. MDF-Tite MDF Screws are designed to eliminate blistering when installing MDF boards, fibre boards and chipboard flooring. What's the best and easiest way to remove the nails used in holding down chipboard flooring without having to put a circular saw around. 2. I am now given up the way I’m laying the floor as the gap between subfloor chipboard and the laminate floor is becoming bigger and bigger. 5m. But I would still like to seal the chipboard before laying the vinyl planks, especially under the sink and the appliances. My question is whether ot not it is necessary to have the ends/joints supported by joists. This should leave the flooring which goes under the wall fairly intact, and the wall supported. First board will end on joist so it will connect with the next one on the joist etc. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 18 x 600 x 2400mm. #2. 2020 (870) tháng 1 2020 (870) 2019 (923) tháng 12 2019 (750) tháng 11 2019 (138) fortnite custom parkour maps Minecraft INSANE LAVA. £14. #4. 98 Inc Vat. Net-Coat Blue-Plated. Tongue and groove design for easy installation. This is one of the most important steps, and it’s one that’s tripped up a lot of homeowners in the past. Thread by: Durk, Jul 15, 2021, 6 replies, in forum: Builders' Talk. There is a lip from the concrete floor to the wooden floor of approximately 10 to 15mm. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. if you use a circular saw set the blade depth correctly and you won’t hit pipes or cables. Buy Loft Insulation at Screwfix. . Door Bolts. actually sell chipboard flooring bonded to there insulation. The best way but it's quite final, is to take the floor up completely, apply a polyurethane based glue (egger d4, gator glue, anything that bubbles up) to the joists and to the tongues of the chipboard, then relay the flooring, screwing down each board, three screws over the width of the board. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. About a year ago we had our chipboard kitchen floor tiled. 66 rows. Suitable Application. Drill a hole about 15 deep into the board on the line. Zinc-Plated & Yellow-Passivated. Chipboard has no real strength going sideways, so the boards will pull away from any fixings within about 10mm of an edge with relative ease. (You may need to cut away some of the insulation to make room for the wood. I would over board with 15mm, 12mm is barely acceptable. On pulling up and removing the carpet a number of the original chipboard floorboards are water damaged and will need replacing. All of our chipboard is P5 grade, which means it has been treated with a moisture-resistant coating and is load-bearing - perfect for cost-effective chipboard floorboards. #5. can anyone help - I am about to refit my kitchen and want to lay floor tiles on a floating t&g chipboard floor laid over plastic menbrane then concrete. Plan was: Put in several air vents. Yes, he tiled it straight onto chipboard with flexi adhesive. Right, I am tiling a friends kitchen, she does have t&g chipboard flooring, the kitchen is very narrow only 130cm in width, and 519cm long. Actually I think it's a bit under 25mm thick so just measure a piece - circa 22. 9/5. Weather-Resistant. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. I have been told to use 6mm ply with screwed down 6" centre's then a flexible adhesive - anyone got any advice on this - this house is around 17 years old Thanksnumber 4 New Member. electrics duplexed in every house. Measure the length of the room to determine how many rows there will be. Where needed, screw some wood to the underneath of the board around the hole - so some of the wood projects into the hole and acts as a ‘ledge’ for the replaced chipboard. Suitable for use on interior surfaces and spot priming of exterior surfaces. My issue is that I've just realised after reading online that I have tiled directly onto chipboard that was originally down on the floor. £74. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. 996m² (9686V) (1) compare. So would a diluted varnish be better than No Nonsense waterproofer? RichardD, 1 minute ago. I have recently removed some old floor tiles from my chipboard bathroom floor, in fact they came up far too easy for my likeing, I did not prime the floor before laying the tiles but did use a flexable adhesive. The nails I got out with the screwdrivers were. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. (268 products) Brackets are a versatile and universal fixing used in both domestic and commercial settings. handyman. But what was causing the squeaking? Two boards close together without any tongues will squeak when walked on. #9. Read less. Showing 8 of 12 products. Requires no pilot hole or pre-drilling. Leave it to dry overnight and then use a floor scraper to take off the mess you've left. murrmac, Jun 7, 2008. 66 = 396mm. I had to do this recently to a loft floor, what I did was to use two screwdrivers (flat blades)Just tap each blade into the board right next to the head of the nail one each side and lever the nail out. Plenty glue on the t&g and I personally glue to the joists as well. You must leave at least 50mm, preferably 100mm or more of clearance between the insulation and the board and the eaves and ensure the soffits allow air flow through them. There was a water leak over 5 years ago which has left the chipboard floor bowed by as much as 6mm where the boards join. Buy. Over 40,000 products. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. #11. £2. 1. Inc. You would of course need to cut out a section of chipboard flooring in bedroom . The chipboard floor undulates excessively, in places out by approx 1/2" over 3' along the joists and forms dips between them, also joist to joist is slightly out. 99 Inc Vat. No Cooling Required. Traditionally I'd always thought you should use OSB or plywood for this, but there's a 4 week delay. Click & Collect. 5. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Once the glue is dried just drop the small piece back in and fix with four screws. 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You will only stop the squeaks with screws and glue, laying something on top will not work. Water-Based Adhesive. 30 day money back guarantee. #3. Flooring Grade Chipboard. Depends on how badly damaged they are of course, but i don't think it's worth it especially if you're carpeting. This bowing is visible under the carpet and as I am replacing the carpet & underlay I wondered what the. 42 per m 2. View all: No Nonsense Flooring Sealants. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Advice for patching damaged chipboard flooring Discussion in ' Carpenters' Talk ' started by jackmagic , Jun 12, 2022 . Steviejoiner74 New Member. General Purpose. UK call centre ready for your call 24/7. So ive decided against this solution. all handed down through family generations. Thread Chipboard flooring and Joist centres. Cheapest way to board it out would probably be shiplap surely. £14. Fork lift or adequate manual labour is required to unload. com. There can be many uses for chipboard screws, particularly in wood projects such as furniture assembly, shelving, flooring, etc. Our CaberDek is fully wa. Delivery. 1) rout a slot along the cut edge (s) and glue in a strip of ply to act as a tongue, then rout a corresponding slot lengthwise along the board to fit at 90 degrees after having cut off the profile that it comes with. The P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring is a durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard flooring with tongue and groove design for easy installation. Click & Collect. £29. Sanding woodchip is not a great idea. 99 Inc Vat. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Builders' Talk > Removing of Chipboard Flooring. Awkward process. VAT. (68 products) Door bolts are used to keep an opening secure, used regularly on gates and external entrances but suitable for internal use also. Doea this sound sensible? Can i fo this without securing the new joyce? 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